Comments on: Mumbothered? A response to the negative comment backlash to FRANkVizeum’s launch

By: wisey

wisey — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:58:34 +0000

Forget all that crap. I question the colloquial usage of the phrase “Is this your idea of wanking?”!

The correct usage should be “Is this your idea of a wank?” and if FRANkVizeum employees are so out of touch with society on that simple front, it’s the impetus from which other ideas are destined to fail.

By: Tamir

Tamir — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:51:50 +0000

Connor, wow, talk about lost in translation here. “If you did bother to take a deeper look you’ll know that Martyn, head of FRANkVizuem started an agency blog and twitter in October 2007. This makes him one of the earliest adopters of new technologies and “social media” in the Australian media landscape.” – I said an agency blog and an agency twitter. I wasn’t referring to individuals in the new media world but to media agencies.

By: Connor

Connor — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:37:03 +0000

Tamir, you weren’t referring to the agency being one of the early adopters, you specifically wrote “This makes him one of the earliest adopters of new technologies and “social media” in the Australian media landscape”

So as for individuals in the media landscape being early adopters of twitter, I think you will find he wasn’t as most of the early adopters were new media types.

At least know your stuff!

By: Tamir

Tamir — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:06:27 +0000

Thanks Cheryl. ok, I know thousands of Australians were there. I simply don’t know of any other MEDIA agencies that used these tools then. But I might be wrong and willing to cut of my words if I am.

By: Cheryl Gledhill

Cheryl Gledhill — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:41:38 +0000

You’re not “one of the earliest adopters of new technologies and “social media” in the Australian media landscape” if you signed up for Twitter in October 2007 – Twitter started taking off at South by SouthWest in March 2007, and there were thousands of Australians using it by then.

If you’re going to claim to be cutting edge, you should at least make sure you are…

By: Tamir

Tamir — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:53:01 +0000

Cheers Daniel. Tim, thanks for the reply. I agree action speaks louder than words and I will be in touch soon to let you know what we do for our clients. Rebecca, comment threads are usually all positive or all negative. It makes a refreshing discussion when you have both views. SHG I meant cutting edge using online tools. As you don’t have a name or a link it’s hard for me to feel sad for entering your blacklist. Connor try FRANktwitts. New masters? bit over the top don’t you think? funny you didn’t leave a name or link. I’m sure you’re a self employed artist. Billy, good angle. We did use our blog and our twitter to let people know about the launch. But cant we use a few tools at the same time? what’s wrong with that? I never get annoyed about people sending their thoughts. What is annoying? trolls – people who are anonymous. People who use inappropriate language and the ones who have nothing else to say besides: “wank”.

By: Billy C

Billy C — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:10:23 +0000

Um.. don’t you guys work in social media? Don’t you think that responding from a p.r perspective just makes it look like you care? One of the reasons that social media is popular is that it allows us to escape a lot of advertisers, share thoughts directly with our friends, promote things that we like and get out of the grip of traditional media who used to control the information. I understand your business is about leveraging that for your clients but naturally people are going to be resistant or sceptical. If you ask people to send their thoughts and then get annoyed then why ask?

By: Connor

Connor — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:05:11 +0000

Ummm . . . October 2007 twitter usage doesnt qualify Martyn as one of the earliest adopters . . . around 6 months too late.

But I expect such a statement from WANKvizeum

p.s. you may wish to at least be able to spell the name correctly of your new masters!

By: SHG

SHG — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:02:44 +0000

Any product, service, or company that I see promoted via graffiti instantly goes on my blacklist. Never to buy, never to use, never to promote, never to hire.

I’m not sure that street-stencilling is particularly “cutting-edge”. Remember Spin Communications’s footpath-spraypaint launch for Xbox in 2001? They got charged $300 per graffito for removal by South Sydney Council, and Spin has still never lived it down.

By: Rebecca

Rebecca — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:13:47 +0000

I am not a big fan of generally and just hanging shit one someone/a company. I read the mumbrella post and I thought it was a bit gratuitous at the time and was surprised about the apparent effort that went into being so negative and generally unsupportive of another member of the community. I find most of the marketing blogs similarly unconstructive but usually only in the comments section, not in the body of the blog.